Disney Gives "Fairy Tale Weddings" A Whole New Meaning

I have only been to Disney World once in my life. I was six. Once was plenty.

There is something about "fake fun" that I find detestable. Spending a leveraged fortune strolling a cartooned land of faux castles based on real ones that I could visit for half the price (and have) seems the height of commercialized American gall. That American families give Disney perhaps all of their vacation dollars in any given year is sad enough, but that Disney will now bite the hand that feeds it should make intellectually honest folks reconsider how much money The Mouse should nibble from our family's budgets from now on.

Hear me. Jane does not hate homosexuals. I am not "afraid" of homosexuals. Homosexuals are created by God in His image and given traits we find different from the norm. Nothing more. They exist in our midst and we might never know unless they choose to tell us.

However, "Gays" are a creation of Hedonistic American Pop Culture and are nothing more than self-loathing moral relativists who seek acceptance for their flamboyant behavior by attempting to co-opt society's most norming institutions to project their Liberal values on larger society.

What I find offensive is the manipulation of social institutions to meet the "Gay" agenda of mainstreaming and normalizing a lifestyle that when carried to its logical end is, by strict definition, self destructive.

My blog buddy, Scott, at boifromtroy, told me that he felt that homosexuals are labeled as "promiscuous"  because they have not traditionally had "anything to aspire to" with regards to social contracts. That statement struck me as sadly truthful. If we won't allow homosexuals to "marry" in the eyes of the State, why should they work so hard to be monogamous and socially invested? As we discussed it, the answer asserted itself. Because God has standards for all His creatures.

It follows then, that if God makes one a homosexual, He does not intend for you to produce off-spring. By its simplest definition, marriage is a contract for the stability of children born of a genetic union between a man and a woman. When two men can organically produce a child, they can be "married".

However. My great aunt should have been able to leave her considerable fortune to her life partner of 48 years when she died. In the South, we are gracious about these things within the privacy of families and her partner was well provided for by understanding family. But that is not always the case. Enter the "Civil Union". After all, what good Republican can't see the value of letting homosexuals bear the "civil union" penalty and pay their fair share of the confiscatory tax burden like the rest of us?

Just know that I won't be giving a plug nickel to any business that insists I bear the burden of explaining to Junior why Tinker Bell has a beard. Mouse ears notwithstanding.

Comments

[gary]

By your logic no woman past the age of menopause should be allowed to marry. Also infertile men and women should not be allowed to marry.

[JANE SAYS: Sophism is NARROWLY TOLERATED in The Realm, gary. You know better. Please see my comments at BOIFROMTROY. I address that flimsiness in detail there.]

[Chuck]

My wife and I saw this on the news and just wondered "Why?". The Reuters articles states "Walker said the change was prompted by 'an inquiry from a guest that asked about this service.'" Now if A guest asked about stopping this service would they be prompted to do so? I doubt it.

[Stealthkix]

Disney has always been more on the liberal side. They push evolution quite a bit and they have those "gay days". I don't know if that was Walt's bag, but I'd like to think not. I suppose with the wedding packages, they see it as just opening it up to another market. Those of us with working brains see this and think, "wait a minute..." but to liberals it's all normal stuff. To them. if you're not gay or an environmental activist or a hippie or a commie there's something wrong with you.

Now, all that said, the times I've been to Disney World it's been nothing but excellence. Nobody does theme parks and resorts better than Disney. Liberal or not, they impress.

[JANE SAYS: Where is my gratuitous stroke for the day Stealthy...a girl needs LOVE....heehee... But you are right...this is a case of "I see the world this way, so it should change for me" Liberalism. Damn what the mainstream doen't want to explain away to innocent by-standing children. It is NOT the "marriage" IN THIS CASE that I oppose, but Disney's duplicity in their definitions of "family friendly" entertainment.

And as a theme park goes, of course they are king. But there are REAL kingdoms I'd rather spend my money to explore. The kind with REAL kings, not fake queens.]

[Stealthkix]

I'll stroke you twice on Monday. :)

[JANE PURRRrrrrsssss.]

[gary]

I really do not care if gays get married or not, but let me try another argument:
1) Some gays want to get married

2) it's no skin off my nose

So let them.

[JANE SAYS: But it is skin off Society's already bloodied nose.

How long do you want to REALLY be a part of a civilization that allows a man to marry another man, a German Shepherd, a street sign in Soho, three Siamese fighting fish, a FABULOUS vintage Herman Miller chair, AND an endangered Redwood tree?

The fact is, when offered the option of legally binding "civil unions" which are not structurally different from the construct of "marriage" in the eyes of the law, most homosexual couples decline it because in the words of a Republican homosexual Jane knows, "its all about the 'TROPHY' of marriage for most Gays."]

[Rosie]

Gary does have a bit of a point. Plus, we lesbians are quite famous for our wide childbearing hips that we do, every once in a while, use for exactly that purpose. In a completely chaste and appropriate "Heather has Two Mommies" kind of way.

Everyone is entitled to support or not corporations for whatever reason they choose to. I was dismayed when I saw your list of what not to buy on the sponsors of 9-11 AGITPROP...mainly because if you were again' 'em...then I must be for 'em...and I have no idea how I'm going to manage to buy all that crap or what the hell I'm going to do with most of it.

I'll attest that you are the most gay friendly stark raving republican I know. And I can see you are working through some conflicting ideas here and that's a good thing.

"Gay" is merely a term society is currently using to describe the changing role of GLBT people in culture. Society is very conflicted about this issue as well. It doesn't have to be a self-destructive thing.

On one hand, you are bombarded with images of scantily and inappropriately clad youths dancing and rollerskating in the streets or bars engaging in lurid displays of public affection.

Believe me when I tell you, I also want to jump through the TV screen with a cup of strong coffee and a bathrobe, hissing, "What if your mother saw you like this!!!?" ...

Everytime I see a "Girls Gone Wild" spot...or coverage of a Gay Pride parade.

"Gay" is not just a set of sexual behaviors...it's a rich varied culture with its own art, music, literature and customs. It is hard for many to recognize this since our members emerge from the mainstream. But if you can make this leap, it becomes apparent that:

Our young people make bad choices, flaunt their sexuality and sometimes have trouble learning to moderate their alcohol/drug intake.

Yours do too.

We have a subculture of colorful eccentrics who are mouthy and make outrageous statements and exhibit, frankly, strange behavior.

You do too.

What goes on behind our bedroom doors seems "icky" to you.

We feel the same about you...though we don't talk about it as much.

You live in nice suburban neighborhoods, with two kids and a dog, holding down a job and somehow manage to pay your bills on time.

We do too.

We have much more in common, our two cultures, than we have differences. It just takes a little left turn at the frontal lobe to see them.

Believe me, if I thought the entire straight community was represented by Girls Gone Wild, The Jerry Springer Show and Geraldo, I'd be standing in front of Congress right now begging them to make them stop breeding.

That's just plain bad animal husbandry.

We need the right to marry because marriage has become more of a legal rather than religious or moral contract. It's as simple as that. There isn't as strong of a legal protection for shared property, health and death rights as marriage.

These rights are available to the lowest common denominators of society, yet are denied to us. It just doesn't make sense that sicko serial killers, criminals or sexual predators are allowed these rights when the nice gay or lesbian couple of 20 plus years that lives down the street doesn't have them because they are just too boring and commonplace to make the news.

[JANE SAYS: I'm SO glad you bought up that Jerry Springer thing you had mentioned to me the other day, and I was secretly hoping to see you come over here and say it for yourself. I think the RIGHT tends to flaunt the EXTREME of the Gay movement in precise ORDER to gen up FEAR of the larger Homosexual Lobby who has very valid arguments for their inclusion in social contracts. I say let 'em pay the taxes like everyone else, just don't mock the sanctity of a religious institution as a trophy against "the man". Because you are right, there is nothing we can do about the mouth-breathing Hetero-ASSHOLES on Jerry Springer do enough of THAT already...JEEEZ.

And I resent your suggestion that I am not as HAWT as ANY ONE OF those Girls Gone Wild. //////S

Thank you for coming, Rosie. It would not have been the same without your thoughtful comments. ;) XOXOXOOXXO]

[gary]

It's not clear to me how it is skin of society's nose. Massachusets has had gay marriage for several years now and the skies have not fallen.

As for your other comments, I think that society could draw the line at people, although I am fond of my lounge chair.

[Casey]

I appreciate the blogger's thoughtful consideration of the meaning of marriage, and her clear non-hostility to gay and lesbian folk in general. I would just like to raise one point I haven't seen yet as regards the reproduction argument; the theology of adoption. Yes, gays cannot biologically reproduce, but is that the only legitimate means to expand a family? I would argue that to claim so is profoundly unbiblical. It is like the conversation Christ had with Nicodemus, about being born again - Christ made it clear that it was not a physical rebirth, but a spiritual matter. In the OT (Old Testament), the command was to increase the number of God's people through birth; in the NT Christians are called to make disciples of all of the peoples - overall, a trend away from mere physicality to spirituality, and thus a greater likeness to God in a way. Gays raise children by choice, and through adoption they can provide parents to children who otherwise would not have families... or wouldn't exist at all if not for invitro. It is a less tangible sort of parenthood, perhaps, but it is no less real. Call it a parenthood of faith. Thus I would argue that gays are indeed adding life to the world, and following God's commands for them - that they adopt children as He adopts us as His - and the marriage bond facilitates this role. Just something I think about sometimes, and thought I'd offer, particularly given the season. God bless.

[JANE SAYS: Well said, indeed. Jane can "do" rational. Thank you for your kind and thoughtful contribution.

Happy Season of Forgiveness. Easter, for us Christians, Passover for my Jewish buds! Welcome, Casey, please don't be a stranger.]

[ProphetJoe]

With these wedding packages starting at $8,000 -- I see this as primarily a marketing strategy. It is a well documented fact that demographically speaking, homosexual men had large amounts of disposable income. Disney wants to relieve them of their burden...

[Rancher]

I loved taking my sons to Disneyland. Disney is a business, and if they wish to cater to a significant demografic then I have no problem with that. IIRC don’t they already have a gay day at the park? FNDT I’m not gonna google it. Anyways I agree with your other points, especially with your assertion that homosexuals are “created by God in His image and given traits we find different from the norm.” I can only say that in the animal world, at least in sheep, 10% of rams are homosexual. When rams are isolated from ewes the homosexual sex rate raises, as does the rate in our prisons. I don’t remember how much. FNDT.

[Casey]

Thanks for the greeting, Jane - I started reading you on a tip from BoifromTroy during CPAC, and have enjoyed it since. As to Rancher's comment about Gay Days at Disney - it isn't an official thing, and Disney corporate doesn't support it (though I have noted an increase in little rainbow mickey mouse antenna balls for sale in gift shops around that time of year, and I've heard rumors that the parks are willing to give shirts to guests who accidentally wear red t-shirts and don't want to be confused for the gay guests who intentionally wear red - both of which I think are just smart business). It's just one of those fun, organic things that has grown up, and Disney chooses to accept gracefully rather than fight... particularly since studies show that gay folk are particularly loyal to companies we perceive as friendly.

[Willy]

This site is a parody, right?

[Rancher]

Willy, no, this site is not a parody you are. Oh, and BTW Jane, I stole your Rosie pic and went to town with it. Thanks.

[Steve]

You say, "It follows then, that if God makes one a homosexual, He does not intend for you to produce off-spring."

That's illogical. God chose not to give us wings, so it follows that He does not intend for us to fly? God also created some heterosexual persons with defective reproductive organs--so it must follow that they are not intended to reproduce? So if their defect can be corrected medically, and they do reproduce, they have gone against God's will?

All of that is very interesting, but irrelevant in a secular society. Civil marriage in a secular society such as ours is whatever we decide it to be. If we decide that it's solely for reproduction, then that's what it is for. The problem is, we have decided just the opposite. Marriage licenses in the US are granted without regard to a person's or couple's ability to reproduce. There is no fertility test required. So, society has determined that marriage is not available SOLELY to couples that can reproduce. It's also not SOLELY for couples of the same race, the same religious beliefs, the same age, the same ethnicity, the same opinion about George Bush, or anything else--except sex. And why? Because some are of the mistaken opinion that laws should reflect the religious views of the majority.

My high school history teacher taught that ours is not a pure democracy, but rather a republic in which the rights of the minority are protected. That's why we could not vote to send all the Baptists to Africa, no matter how tempting that might be.

[JANE SAYS: If you think you can fly, grow wings. Jump off the roof. You will fall like a stone. An airplane does not count. T

Two men can screw like rabbits in June and neither one will EVER, EVER, EEEEVER get pregnant. Even two women. Screw as they might, THEY CAN NEVER SHARE GENES either. Mary Cheney had outside help.

Now THAT, Steve, is LOGIC.

Your HATEFUL SOPHISTRY is only tolerated here as a STELLAR example of what Liberals are reduced to when logic escapes them. Thanks for playing. Go spew factoids and detest yourself somewhere else.]

[Marcial de Castro]

Marriage is about love and commitment above all else. And love is never wrong.

[JANE SAYS: You are right. Love is never wrong. But "Marriage" is about MUCH more than that. Love DOES not conquer all. Even among the MANY disfunctional HETERO couples that have NO business getting married. Oh...to make Jerry Springer Trash banned from marrige. THAT WOULD BE the day!

You are welcome here anytime, Marcial.]

[Steve]

I'm sorry. I thought you were interested in HONEST debate and RESPECTFUL discussion. I can see now you're actually about SELF PROMOTION and suffer from a strange ALLCAPS fetish. Goodbye.

[JANE SAYS: FIRST OF ALL. This is The Realm. MY REALM. And YOU are the invited guest. CAPS ARE MY PRIVILEGE. And WHO EXACTLY ARE YOU TO LECTURE JANE ABOUT A "FETISH"? Pah-leez.

Exactly WHAT is "self promoting" about asking you to stick to the facts as they exist? I did not make the rules, merely ask that we all play by the same set for the sake of a stable society. God made men and women as two parts of a whole genome. DO YOU GET THAT? Biology 101, STEve. LOGIC, STEve.

NO ONE at this blog is begrudging you a legal union with your life partner and THAT is what REALLY pisses you off. I AM reasonable, I LIKE CAPS, and I WILL NOT BE JAMMED INTO YOUR "HOMOPHOBE" MOLD.

The ugly TRUTH is this: You want the TROPHY of "marriage" because of YOUR PERSONAL RAGE AT THE HETEROSEXUAL MACHINE.

My decent homosexual friends even have a disgusting name for people like you that even I WON'T REPEAT HERE.

Be well. And since I always have open comments here, I will thank you to not ruin it for the intellectually honest among the homosexual community by spewing your self-loathing hatred.]

[Wade]

DollyWood in Tennessee is more fun. Jane, Happy Easter. Music for you here: http://belliot.com/hes_alive.htm

Wade

[JANE SAYS: And by its very NATURE, teeming with HETEROSEXUAL men.

OH, Wade...THE MUSIC...THANK YOU for the PEACE....BLESS YOU...and your season. I can't wait to visit my "present"...THANKS...XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXWade]

[Sniper One]

As I see it, homosexuals have the same right to get married to a member of the opposite sex as everyone else does.

[JANE SAYS: Niiiicely done.]

[PRCalDude]

Jane,

I'm willing to buy the argument that homosexuals were born that way, but not all were. Allowing civil unions will legitimize homosexuality and encourage it. It will also cheapen the institution of heterosexual marriage. Gay marriage is rampant in Europe, and it has contributed to their demographic crisis.

Homosexual men are promiscuous because they're MEN, not because they're not allowed to marry.

[JANE SAYS: I believe in some arguments for the biological causes of homosexuality. As a public school teacher in a small town, I witnessed KINDERGARTENERS who were clearly "different", then watched them grow to high schoolers. No question it was not a choice. But I draw the line between those few and the others who "experiment" and "choose" a lifestyle to make a political point, embarrass their family, or manifest deep anti-social attitudes.

These are the portion of that population that I call (capital "G"), "Gay".

As commenter Rosie called them, the young, "Jerry Springer" homosexuals (my thoughts now) who have taken their ire for the hetero community and turn it inward and become cartoons.

My (nine or so) homosexual friends and relatives are not closeted. HARDLY. Most are BRAVE and proud SOUTHERNERS. But they don't wear diapers in public parades and openly scorn those among them who do.

They DO need legal protection, but I will agree that they don't need to elevate it to "marriage".

God made homosexuals, and I know many hetero MEN who are promiscuous tramps because God made MEN too ;) Promiscuity by ANY gender is an affront to God, it is only when it is man on man that it becomes an affront to society. Go figure on THAT double standard. I call tramps, "tramps" and I am very clear about my disdain for whores of any stripe. One can't call me a homophobe, because I am not "afraid" of homosexuality, but I would be perfectly fine if you call me a "Tramp Hater" because I will own my disgust and intolerance for Britney Spears as much as I own my disgust for Rue Paul. ;) ]

[PRCalDude]

I think many of these comments are exhibit 'A' for an example of the collapse of Western Civ.

[JANE SAYS: You are correct. Some, more than others, perhaps, but no less correct!]

[anita]

steve is spewing hateful sophistry? i don't think so. he seems pretty rational and on point to me. i think it is you, jane, that is filled with bitterness and hatred. the evidence is clear. and it's pretty ugly.

[JANE SAYS: Sophism is the new black where you Libs are concerned. Get real, anita. I'd love to see two male gametes produce THEIR OWN SHARED NATURAL diploid zygote. Until then, anita, you need to grab a dictionary and see who is given to the sophistry around here.

The Realm is a benevolent dictatorship, but Jane will not ignore FACTS. And if you had a SHRED of intellectual honesty, anita, neither would YOU.]